{"id":14383,"date":"2013-10-02T09:56:50","date_gmt":"2013-10-02T16:56:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.kith.org\/journals\/jed\/2013\/10\/02\/14383.html"},"modified":"2013-10-02T09:56:50","modified_gmt":"2013-10-02T16:56:50","slug":"group-of-people-pejoratives-pa","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/2013\/10\/02\/group-of-people-pejoratives-pa\/","title":{"rendered":"Group-of-people pejoratives, part 1: &#8220;gay&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>This is part 1 in a planned series of posts about terms that are used as generic pejoratives but that also <em>just happen<\/em> to be terms referring to a group of people.<\/p>\n<p>I&rsquo;m gonna start with what I think is one of the easier ones to discuss: <i>gay<\/i>.<\/p>\n<p>These days, when an American under age 30 or so says &ldquo;That&rsquo;s so gay,&rdquo; they don&rsquo;t generally mean anything related to homosexuality. They just mean it&rsquo;s bad. They mean they don&rsquo;t like it.<\/p>\n<p>A couple years ago, I heard a co-worker (who I think was in his mid-twenties) proclaim, &ldquo;This website is so gay!&rdquo; He didn&rsquo;t mean anything homophobic by it; to him, that was a generic insult.<\/p>\n<p>I cringed every time I heard him say something like that, which he did once or twice a week. After around the half-dozenth time, I summoned up my courage, and I stepped around the cube divider, and I told him, &ldquo;It makes me uncomfortable when you use <i>gay<\/i> as an insult.&rdquo; He was apologetic and embarrassed, and after that I never heard him say it again.<\/p>\n<p>I&rsquo;m guessing here, but I don&rsquo;t think it had ever occurred to him that the word <i>gay<\/i>, meaning &ldquo;bad,&rdquo; had anything to do with the word <i>gay<\/i>, meaning &ldquo;homosexual.&rdquo; I think to a lot of people, those are two separate words that just happen to be spelled and pronounced the same.<\/p>\n<p>But I don&rsquo;t think it&rsquo;s just a coincidence. I think one evolved from the other; <i>gay<\/i> has for some time been used as a taunt and an insult against kids who behave in stereotypically gay ways (which has been considered bad), and over time it&rsquo;s come to refer to generic badness.<\/p>\n<p>That kind of evolution of meaning happens in language all the time, and there&rsquo;s nothing wrong with it per se; and it&rsquo;s fine for words to have more than one meaning. But when the term in question is still in use as a non-derogatory self-adopted label for a less-privileged group of people, then it seems to me that using that term as a generic pejorative is problematic.<\/p>\n<p>To be clear: I&rsquo;m not primarily talking about the use of <i>gay<\/i> that means &ldquo;that&rsquo;s reminiscent of something stereotypically associated with homosexuals.&rdquo; If I flop my wrist around while talking and someone says, &ldquo;Hey, man, that looks kinda gay&rdquo;&mdash;well, that&rsquo;s problematic, and if they don&rsquo;t mean it as a compliment then it&rsquo;s probably somewhere between ignorant and homophobic, and it invites a comeback like &ldquo;And is there something wrong with that, girlfriend?&rdquo;; but it&rsquo;s not using the term as a generic pejorative. The generic use is calling something <i>gay<\/i> without any intended reference to homosexuality.<\/p>\n<p>One could argue that the generic use is better; at least it&rsquo;s less overtly homophobic. But I&rsquo;m bothered by both uses&mdash;one because it&rsquo;s homophobic, the other because to at least some listeners, it&rsquo;s hard to make the separation. If I were a kid who&rsquo;d figured out that I was homosexual but hadn&rsquo;t told anyone yet, and if I constantly heard the word <i>gay<\/i> used pejoratively, I don&rsquo;t think it would help much to tell myself &ldquo;they don&rsquo;t mean it like that.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>I know that the word <i>gay<\/i> has changed in meaning before; when it first started to be used to mean &ldquo;homosexual,&rdquo; there was a lot of pushback. People expressed great sadness that such a lovely carefree happy cheerful word was being taken over by Those Homosexuals, and I have little sympathy for that position. But I don&rsquo;t think the current shift in use of the word is the same thing. Before, the word didn&rsquo;t refer to a group of people; now it does. To me, that makes an enormous difference.<\/p>\n<p>So what it comes down to for me is that when people use the word <i>gay<\/i> in a pejorative way, it makes me uncomfortable. Whether they intend it or not, it sounds to me like they&rsquo;re equating homosexuality with badness. I obviously can&rsquo;t stop anyone from using the word that way, but I would prefer that people choose other terms from English&rsquo;s vast trove of derogatory words.<\/p>\n<hr width=\"25%\" \/>\n<p>Some resources:<\/p>\n<ul>\n  <li>So what can you say instead of <i>gay<\/i> when you want to express dislike? There are lots of options. <i>Annoying<\/i>. <i>Ridiculous<\/i>. <i>Goofy<\/i>. <i>Foolish<\/i>. <i>Pathetic<\/i>. <i>Bad<\/i>. <i>Awful<\/i>. <i>Ugly<\/i>. <i>Uncool<\/i>. <i>Trivial<\/i>. And so on.<\/li>\n  <li>In a 5-minute Ignite video, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2013\/03\/05\/ash-beckham-gay-video_n_2812204.html\">Ash Beckham explains the problem<\/a>.<\/li>\n  <li>A <a href=\"http:\/\/phys.org\/news\/2013-01-heterosexual-college-males-gay.html\">study<\/a> suggests that &ldquo;The more respondents were uncomfortable around feminine men, the more likely they were to report saying [&lsquo;That&rsquo;s so gay&rsquo;].&rdquo;<\/li>\n  <li>There was a <cite>Dykes to Watch Out For<\/cite> strip (#368) that addressed this issue&mdash;but it was problematic too, for reasons I&rsquo;ll discuss later in this series.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<hr width=\"25%\" \/>\n<p>On a side note, other gay-related terms may undergo similar shifts. For example, in that same group at work, I once heard a co-worker (also in her twenties) refer to someone as a &ldquo;pansy.&rdquo; An out bi colleague of theirs was there that day (he wasn&rsquo;t around when the other guy used <i>gay<\/i> pejoratively), and he told her what <i>pansy<\/i> means, and she was not just embarrassed, but horrified. She was an ally, and certainly hadn&rsquo;t intended any homophobic insult; she just had no idea that the word specifically insulted gays.<\/p>\n<hr width=\"25%\" \/>\n<p>Speaking of other words: I have a whole list of other words to discuss in this series, words that both refer to a group of people and are used derogatorily. (Sometimes generic, sometimes not.) They get harder after this; a couple of them are words that <em>I<\/em> used to say, and about which I used to say &ldquo;well, but this is a different word, it doesn&rsquo;t mean the same thing.&rdquo; But I gradually learned that they were harmful to the groups in question, and I&rsquo;ve stopped saying them.<\/p>\n<p>I&rsquo;m guessing that some of y&rsquo;all will want to talk about other such words in comments on this entry, and I&rsquo;m not going to stop you; but fwiw, I&rsquo;m choosing my ordering of discussion carefully because I think it&rsquo;ll be easier to discuss some of the words if we lay the groundwork with others first. In particular, I think that, among my friends, <i>gay<\/i> is likely to be one of the easiest to agree on, so I&rsquo;m starting here.<\/p>\n<hr width=\"25%\" \/>\n<p>(Wrote most of this back in February, didn&rsquo;t post it &rsquo;til now.)<\/p>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is part 1 in a planned series of posts about terms that are used as generic pejoratives but that&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[12,23],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-14383","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-language","category-queer"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14383","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=14383"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14383\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=14383"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=14383"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=14383"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}