{"id":19498,"date":"2022-07-25T09:18:04","date_gmt":"2022-07-25T16:18:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/?p=19498"},"modified":"2022-07-25T09:18:04","modified_gmt":"2022-07-25T16:18:04","slug":"i-recommend-not-doing-popcorn-introductions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/2022\/07\/25\/i-recommend-not-doing-popcorn-introductions\/","title":{"rendered":"I recommend not doing \u201cpopcorn\u201d introductions"},"content":{"rendered":"\r\n<p>Short version of this post: I recommend not using the \u201cpopcorn\u201d system to have people in a meeting introduce themselves, because there are a variety of ways that that system can cause stress and upset to participants.<\/p>\r\n<p>Long version follows.<\/p>\r\n<hr width=\"25%\" \/>\r\n<h3>Background<\/h3>\r\n<p>A couple of times now, I\u2019ve been in social-justice-related video calls with a bunch of people I don\u2019t know, and the leader of the group has asked everyone to introduce themselves, and someone has suggested that we do that in \u201cpopcorn\u201d order.<\/p>\r\n<p>The first time this happened, I had no idea what \u201cpopcorn\u201d meant, and had to ask for it to be explained. (\u2026Or maybe someone else asked? I forget.)<\/p>\r\n<p>For others who may not know, the way it works is that one person introduces themselves, and then they pick someone else on the call and they say that other person\u2019s name. That picked person then introduces themselves, and then picks someone else, and so on, until (in theory) everyone has introduced themselves.<\/p>\r\n<p>I\u2019m guessing that the general idea behind popcorning is to get everyone involved and revved up and interacting with each other (albeit in a minimal way) and eager to work together to achieve the group\u2019s goal. I can imagine contexts in which a similar kind of process might have that effect for me. But in the contexts where I\u2019ve seen it, popcorning hasn\u2019t had that effect (at least not for me), and it has instead had several negative effects.<\/p>\r\n<hr width=\"25%\" \/>\r\n<h3>Concerns<\/h3>\r\n<p>My first and least important concern about the concept is that when the leaders assume that everyone knows how it works, that can be alienating to newcomers.<\/p>\r\n<p>After that first meeting where I had to have it explained, I no longer needed an explanation. But in the other meetings (of different groups) where I\u2019ve seen popcorning happen, it\u2019s possible that some other attendees didn\u2019t know what popcorning was, and in those meetings, nobody explained the process. (And it didn\u2019t occur to me to explain it myself, or to ask someone else to explain.)<\/p>\r\n<p>But I also have bigger concerns. For example:<\/p>\r\n<ul>\r\n<li><p>If there are more than about ten attendees, it\u2019s nearly impossible for a newcomer to keep track of who has gone already and who hasn\u2019t. So the people who go late in the process are likely to have to give up and say something like \u201cI don\u2019t know who\u2019s gone and who hasn\u2019t, who wants to go next?\u201d Which means that you\u2019re probably going to end up not using the popcorn process toward the end anyway.<\/p>\r\n<p>(I\u2019m told that some people view the keeping-track aspect as a positive thing, because it makes attendees pay attention to who\u2019s already gone during the introductions. I don\u2019t particularly like that as a goal (for me, trying to keep track of meta-information like that distracts me from listening to the introductions); but if it is a goal, then I would recommend that the leaders be explicit upfront about that, saying something like: \u201cPart of the goal of popcorning is to make you keep track of who has spoken and who hasn\u2019t, so you should pay close attention to that and maybe take notes.\u201d)<\/p>\r\n<\/li>\r\n<li>When someone is picking the next person to speak, they\u2019re more likely to pick names that they know how to pronounce than names that they don\u2019t know how to pronounce; so people with less-common-in-this-meeting\u2019s-context names are likely to get called on later or not at all. (Also, such people\u2019s names are likely to get mispronounced when they do get called on.) This is especially unfortunate in contexts where the people with less-common-in-this-meeting\u2019s-context names are also people with less privilege.<\/li>\r\n<li>For an attendee who doesn\u2019t know anyone else at the meeting, and who\u2019s prone to social anxiety, it can be super anxiety-inducing to have to decide who to pick to go next.<\/li>\r\n<li>When an attendee doesn\u2019t know anyone else at the meeting, or is known to some of the group but some people don\u2019t especially like them, I suspect that they\u2019ll often end up not being chosen until late in the process, because I suspect that people who do know and like each other tend to pick each other. (I don\u2019t know how often that happens in practice, but I\u2019ve gotten that impression in my limited experience, and others have told me that they\u2019ve seen it too.) I imagine that some people go out of their way to pick someone they don\u2019t know, but I\u2019m pretty sure that at least some other people don\u2019t.<\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<p>In theory, in this context, there\u2019s nothing wrong with getting \u201cpicked\u201d late in the sequence, or even going last, because in theory, everyone is going to get a turn sooner or later. But in practice, it can feel unpleasant or awkward to not be picked for a long time, especially if you suspect that you haven\u2019t been picked yet because of your name or because nobody knows you or because certain people don\u2019t like you. It can feel reminiscent of (for example) team-picking in gym class, where the popular and athletic kids get chosen first. In popcorning, the order is chosen by the aggregate of the participants (as opposed to being random, or being determined by some external factor), which can make it feel like a hierarchy even if it isn\u2019t exactly one.<\/p>\r\n<p>\u2026Btw, I\u2019m not the only one who\u2019s uncomfortable with popcorning; for example, a web search for [popcorn zoom] brought up this <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hercampus.com\/school\/u-mass-amherst\/why-i-dislike-popcorn-activity-zoom\/\">post from a college student<\/a> as the first search result.<\/p>\r\n<hr width=\"25%\" \/>\r\n<h3>So what\u2019s a better approach?<\/h3>\r\n<p>My answer: It\u2019s much simpler for the leader of the meeting to just call on people, in some obvious-to-them order.<\/p>\r\n<p>For example, on a video call, the leader can use the order that the attendees appear in on the leader\u2019s screen, or on the list-of-attendees\u2019-names panel\u2014those orderings may be different from the orders that everyone else sees, but it is nonetheless still <em>an<\/em> order, and it\u2019s an order that makes sure everyone is included, without biases about who goes where in the order. (The leader can even read the list of names aloud at the start, so participants will know ahead of time who\u2019s going to come right before them; and the leader can explicitly check with the first person to make sure they\u2019re OK with going first.)<\/p>\r\n<p>There are problems with that approach, too (for example, it still may result in mispronounced names, and it results in somewhat less direct interaction among participants, which can make it feel a little hierarchical); but at least it reduces most of the problems I listed above.<\/p>\r\n<hr width=\"25%\" \/>\r\n<h3>In conclusion<\/h3>\r\n<p>I can imagine that there could be variants on popcorning that might work better for me, but in the form that I\u2019ve seen it in, I recommend not using it.<\/p>\r\n<p>And if you as a meeting leader do decide to use it, then I strongly recommend explaining it upfront, and explicitly stating what your goals are for using the format, and explicitly requesting that people call on others who they don\u2019t know when possible. And explicitly establishing a protocol for what to do when someone doesn\u2019t know how to pronounce someone else\u2019s name.<\/p>\r\n<hr width=\"25%\" \/>\r\n<p>PS: On a side note, if the meeting has more than (say) a dozen or so attendees, it takes a long time for everyone to introduce themselves. And during most of that time, most of the participants are probably not paying a lot of attention or being especially engaged. (A lot of them are probably anxiously awaiting their turn, or preparing what they\u2019re going to say, or tuning out because they\u2019ve already had their turn, or paying more attention to keeping track of who\u2019s spoken than to what\u2019s being said, or trying to decide whether the embarrassment of introducing themselves to the whole group is worse than the embarrassment of dropping out of the call.) But that\u2019s not an issue with popcorning as such; I\u2019m just noting in passing that for (say) a 30-person group, it may not be worth taking the time to have everyone introduce themselves.<\/p>\r\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[128,11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-19498","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-anxiety","category-improving-society"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/19498","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=19498"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/19498\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":19501,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/19498\/revisions\/19501"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=19498"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=19498"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=19498"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}