{"id":21947,"date":"2026-07-03T15:14:41","date_gmt":"2026-07-03T22:14:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/?p=21947"},"modified":"2026-07-03T15:16:23","modified_gmt":"2026-07-03T22:16:23","slug":"star-city","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/2026\/07\/03\/star-city\/","title":{"rendered":"Star City"},"content":{"rendered":"\r\n<p>Some thoughts about the TV show <cite>Star City<\/cite>, a spinoff from the alternate-history-of-the-Space-Race show <cite>For All Mankind<\/cite>.<\/p>\r\n<p>Includes major spoilers for all of <cite>For All Mankind<\/cite> so far (through the end of s5), and for the first two eps of <cite>Star City<\/cite>.<\/p>\r\n<p><\/p>\r\n<p>.<\/p>\r\n<p>.<\/p>\r\n<p>.<\/p>\r\n<p>.<\/p>\r\n<p>.<\/p>\r\n<p>.<\/p>\r\n<p>.<\/p>\r\n<p>.<\/p>\r\n<p>.<\/p>\r\n<p>.<\/p>\r\n<p>.<\/p>\r\n<p>.<\/p>\r\n<p><\/p>\r\n<p>Irina Vasilievna Morozova is a Soviet character who first appeared in <cite>For All Mankind<\/cite> s4e1. She\u2019s been a more or less ruthless presence on the show on and off since then. And I knew that <cite>Star City<\/cite> was going to be set in the same alternate USSR portrayed in <cite>FAM<\/cite>, in the 1960s.<\/p>\r\n<p>So as Kam and I watched Irina\u2019s actions in the last few episodes of <cite>FAM<\/cite> s5, I guessed that a young version of her was probably going to be a prominent character in <cite>Star City<\/cite>. (This was not a big leap; probably lots of people figured it out long before I did.)<\/p>\r\n<p>But then we watched the first two eps of <cite>Star City<\/cite>, and it became clear that on that show, young Irina still has some human decency. She smiles at least once during those two eps. She\u2019s ordered to kill someone, and she refuses.<\/p>\r\n<p>And we realized that that seems to imply that <cite>Star City<\/cite> is going to be (at least partly) the story of how Irina went from that ambitious-but-somewhat-idealistic young person to a ruthless-bordering-on-evil older person.<\/p>\r\n<p>And we\u2019re not sure that we want to watch that story.<\/p>\r\n<p>Especially when it\u2019s a spinoff of a series that\u2019s always been about can-do space engineering and the triumph of the indomitable human spirit against all odds.<\/p>\r\n<p>I mean, there\u2019s plenty wrong with old-fashioned science fiction models of can-do space engineering and triumph of the human spirit, and <cite>FAM<\/cite> does explore some of what\u2019s wrong with those things. And plenty of awful things have happened on <cite>FAM<\/cite>, both at the individual level and at the organizational and societal levels. But I feel like by the end of most seasons, <cite>FAM<\/cite> has involved some kind of triumph, something that we can feel at least a little good about.<\/p>\r\n<p>But if <cite>Star City<\/cite> is going to be primarily about a character\u2019s descent into cynicism and awfulness, we\u2019re not really sure we want to spend time on it.<\/p>\r\n<p>That said, there are other main characters on the show, and I\u2019m intrigued by some of them. (For example, I didn\u2019t realize until I looked him up later that young genius Nikulov on <cite>Star City<\/cite> is (presumably) the same character as Margo\u2019s sort-of-friend Sergei Orestovich Nikulov on <cite>FAM<\/cite>, and the name \u201cNikulov\u201d also appeared on the computer screen on MARS-94 in the fast-forward-to-2020 scenelet at the very end of s5 of <cite>FAM<\/cite>.)<\/p>\r\n<p>But overall, <cite>Star City<\/cite> is a lot grimmer and a lot darker than <cite>FAM<\/cite>. (\u2026Literally darker! Most of <cite>Star City<\/cite> seems to me to be filmed through some kind of a grayish filter\u2014daytime skies tend to be washed-out white, interior scenes are too-dimly lit, no bright saturated colors allowed.)<\/p>\r\n<p>I think that it\u2019s really just an entirely different kind of show than <cite>FAM<\/cite>\u2014it\u2019s more like a Cold War spy thriller than like a science fiction adventure show. (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Frhys-ifans-as-chief-designer-is-possibly-the-best-casting-v0-luf78yl43i8h1.png%3Fwidth%3D980%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Ddd06c49c2aa5436a784497d563b1ad53f0795953\">Rhys Ifans as Sergei Korolev<\/a>, the Chief Designer, even looks a little (to me) like <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/film\/article\/2024\/sep\/03\/the-star-who-was-left-out-in-the-cold-will-gary-oldman-ever-play-smiley-again#img-1\">Gary Oldman as George Smiley<\/a> in the 2011 <cite>Tinker Tailor<\/cite>.) And one of the showrunners has been quoted as saying that one of their main storylines was inspired by the tradition of Soviet tragic romance. So I shouldn\u2019t expect it to be in the same genre as <cite>FAM<\/cite>.<\/p>\r\n<p>But that means that the sources of viewer pleasure for this show are very different than the ones for <cite>FAM<\/cite>, and I\u2019m not sure that they match what I want to watch.<\/p>\r\n<hr width=\"25%\" \/>\r\n<p>\u2026I wrote most of this post a few weeks ago, after seeing only the first two eps of <cite>Star City<\/cite>. I\u2019ve now seen the next three, and am still feeling largely the same way about it. I only have three eps to go before the end of the season, but I may give up without watching them.<\/p>\r\n<hr width=\"25%\" \/>\r\n<p>(On a side note, I don\u2019t love <cite>Star City<\/cite>\u2019s choice to have all of the Soviet characters speaking English (with British accents). I assume that it would be prohibitive to have most of the dialogue in most of the episodes written and spoken in Russian (with subtitles), but it keeps pushing me out of the story. I know that \u201ctranslating\u201d to English is a perfectly ordinary\/standard thing for TV shows and movies to do; but given five seasons of <cite>FAM<\/cite>, where all of the Russian dialogue really is in Russian (with subtitles), I find it jarring for the spinoff to handle the language issue differently. I keep wondering what language the Russian characters will speak if there\u2019s ever a crossover between the shows. \ud83d\ude42)<\/p>\r\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[27,31],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-21947","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-speculative-fiction","category-television"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/21947","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=21947"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/21947\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":21952,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/21947\/revisions\/21952"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=21947"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=21947"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=21947"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}