{"id":482,"date":"2002-06-17T09:19:27","date_gmt":"2002-06-17T16:19:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.kith.org\/journals\/jed\/2002\/06\/17\/482.html"},"modified":"2002-06-17T09:19:27","modified_gmt":"2002-06-17T16:19:27","slug":"orcs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/2002\/06\/17\/orcs\/","title":{"rendered":"Orcs"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Yesterday at workshop, I saw a fantasy novel by Mary Gentle that contained orcs.  I had to admit I was a little surprised; it ruins my standard comment that orcs exist only in Tolkien and D&amp;D.  But then I was told that the Gentle book was sort of a parody of Tolkien and D&amp;D, so that's all right.<\/p>\n<p>Then today I got a miffed note from an author we'd rejected (this is only about the fourth miffed note we've ever gotten from a rejected author, so I figure we're doing pretty well on that front), stiffly pointing out (\"Need I remind you&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.\") that orcs come from German mythology.  Heh.  Well, yes and no: the word <i>orc<\/i> has various possible <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gamerjargon.com\/gamer3_op.html\">etymologies<\/a> (scroll down the page), having to do with sea monsters and demons, but the modern fantasy-novel concept of orcs as a race of marauding evil humanoid creatures to be slaughtered by a party of adventurers derives almost entirely from Tolkien by way of D&amp;D.  The huffy author missed the point, even though I stated it explicitly in our rejection: we're not interested in stories that read like transcripts of D&amp;D sessions, and using the word <i>orc<\/i> is one of the usual signs that an author is writing a story heavily based on a D&amp;D adventure.<\/p>\n<p>(I should note that I'm a lifelong gamer myself (talking tabletop RPGs here, not computer games); at yesterday's workshop meeting there was a long discussion of RPGs, which made me really wistful, 'cause it's been over two years since I last played.  And I'm sure there are many entertaining and enjoyable books based on D&amp;D games.  But I have yet to read a story based on one that did anything at all for me.)<\/p>\n<p>At Clarion, I wrote a story that included some beings that I called elves.  Lucius Shepard told me something like, \"I don't want to read about Tolkien's elves, I want to read about Hartman's elves.\"  I was annoyed with that comment at the time, but in retrospect Lucius was absolutely right: there was no reason for my characters to be called <i>elves<\/i> other than that I wanted to evoke Tolkien, as a shorthand for having to come up with a culture for them myself.<\/p>\n<p>Moral: be specific and original; don't rely on tired cliches, no matter what their source, as props to hold your story up.<\/p>\n<p>Second moral: don't get huffy with editors who reject you.<\/p>\n<p>Third moral (for editors): don't bother trying to explain rejections.  .&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;Okay, so I don't actually believe or follow this advice.  But in this particular case I may have let the tone of my rejection drift a bit too far toward snippy; if I'd explained more, or less, or just generally been nicer about it, I probably wouldn't have gotten the huffy note back.<\/p>\n<p>Now I have to decide whether to behave sensibly and ignore the note, or whether to attempt to explain more to the author, thereby either placating him or provoking flames.<\/p>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday at workshop, I saw a fantasy novel by Mary Gentle that contained orcs. I had to admit I was&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-482","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/482","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=482"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/482\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=482"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=482"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/jed\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=482"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}