{"id":2465,"date":"2004-12-01T19:17:41","date_gmt":"2004-12-02T00:17:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.kith.org\/journals\/vardibidian\/2004\/12\/01\/2465.html"},"modified":"2018-03-12T16:47:27","modified_gmt":"2018-03-12T21:47:27","slug":"mind-those-ps-and-qs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/vardibidian\/2004\/12\/01\/mind-those-ps-and-qs\/","title":{"rendered":"mind those p&#8217;s and q&#8217;s"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>I wasn&#8217;t going to comment on the <a href=\"http:\/\/itre.cis.upenn.edu\/~myl\/languagelog\/archives\/001677.html\">discussion<\/a> of coffee sizes at Starbucks, inspired by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.miami.com\/mld\/miamiherald\/living\/columnists\/dave_barry\/9872714.htm\">a Dave Barry column<\/a> and still <a href=\"http:\/\/itre.cis.upenn.edu\/~myl\/languagelog\/archives\/001679.html\">ongoing<\/a>, but somehow I feel I need to. Perhaps I still haven&#8217;t gotten over being told by a Starbucks barista that ordering a large black tea did not, to her, communicate that I wanted a large cup of tea without milk, but rather that I wanted some sort of iced beverage of uncertain provenance. The issue of ludicrous names for sizes never bothered me, as I viewed it as much like Denny&#8217;s insisting that one order the Rooty Tooty Fresh&#8217;n&#8217;Fruity rather than the waffle with strawberries (or whatever it was).\n<p>My own <a href=\"http:\/\/www.aromasworld.com\/index.html\">local coffeehouse<\/a> has posted on the counter the Doonesbury strip about this issue, culminating in Michael&#8217;s cry to Supersize his coffee. Which is exactly what&#8217;s happening, of course. I can&#8217;t recall which particular hundred-year-old commentary I was reading that mocked somebody&#8217;s penchant for tea in pint mugs, but I was amused only until I started thinking that my own mug was much more than a pint. More, even, than an English pint (25% bigger!). Actually, to be honest, I guzzle tea by the quart, although suggestions that I actually suck on the spout of the teapot are meant to be insulting (and perhaps evocative) rather than accurate.\n<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s clearly not good for a person to drink tea (much less coffee) in immense quantities; an eight-ounce cup is probably a good idea. Soda is worse than either, as far as I know. We use the eight-ounce &#8216;short cans&#8217; here rather than the 12-ounce cans of my childhood or the now more or less ubiquitous 20-ounce plastic bottles. And am I misremembering this, or when convenience stores started selling 32-ounce soda cups, wasn&#8217;t part of the marketing the sheer ludicrousness of a 32-ounce soda? Within a year or two, the 32-ounce cup was the standard &#8216;large&#8217; soda. Of course, that includes 24 ounces of ice, so it&#8217;s a bit different.\n<p>Anyway, I&#8217;ve wandered pretty far from the topic, if there was one. Oh, yes, silly names for drink sizes. You know, this is the <I>third<\/I> time this week Starbucks has poked its caffeinated head into this blog? That can&#8217;t be good.\n<p>Thank you,<br>-Vardibidian.\n<\/p>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I wasn\u2019t going to comment on the discussion of coffee sizes at Starbucks, inspired by a Dave Barry column and still ongoing, but somehow I feel I need to. Perhaps I still haven\u2019t gotten over being told by a Starbucks&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[201],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2465","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-navel-gazing"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/vardibidian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2465","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/vardibidian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/vardibidian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/vardibidian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/7"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/vardibidian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2465"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/vardibidian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2465\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":17220,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/vardibidian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2465\/revisions\/17220"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/vardibidian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2465"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/vardibidian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2465"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/vardibidian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2465"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}