{"id":2505,"date":"2004-12-17T07:41:12","date_gmt":"2004-12-17T12:41:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.kith.org\/journals\/vardibidian\/2004\/12\/17\/2505.html"},"modified":"2018-03-12T16:47:28","modified_gmt":"2018-03-12T21:47:28","slug":"antisemitism-separatism-suprem","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/vardibidian\/2004\/12\/17\/antisemitism-separatism-suprem\/","title":{"rendered":"Anti-semitism, separatism, supremicism"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>The mini-fooforah rising out of Bill O&#8217;Reilly recently telling a caller who identified himself as Jewish that if he was really offended by ... um ... a variety of aspects of the ways Christmas dominates American culture, he &#8220;gotta&#8221; go to Israel. You know, I&#8217;m not explaining this well, in part because I don&#8217;t quite get what he was saying. Media Matters has what it claims is <a href=\"http:\/\/mediamatters.org\/items\/200412070004\">the whole transcript<\/a>, which might help. Here&#8217;s the bit with the pull quote, taken out of context, of course:\n<blockquote>All right. Well, what I'm tellin' you, [caller], is I think you're takin' it too seriously. You have a predominantly Christian nation. You have a federal holiday based on the philosopher Jesus. And you don't wanna hear about it? Come on, [caller] -- if you are really offended, you gotta go to Israel then. I mean because we live in a country founded on Judeo -- and that's your guys' -- Christian, that's my guys' philosophy. But overwhelmingly, America is Christian. And the holiday is a federal holiday honoring the philosopher Jesus. So, you don't wanna hear about it? Impossible.\n<br>And that is an affront to the majority. You know, the majority can be insulted, too. And that's what this anti-Christmas thing is all about.<\/blockquote>\n<p>Now, I&#8217;m trying to unpack this a little, to see if I can figure out what Mr. O&#8217;Reilly believes. Why? Well, there have been two related accusations: one that Mr. O&#8217;Reilly is an anti-semite, and another that Mr. O&#8217;Reilly, although not an anti-semite, said something anti-semitic. And I&#8217;m curious whether those accusations hold water. So, how can we interpret this statement?\n<p>Well, and he makes the point that most people in the country are Christian, at least nominally, at least, that is, to the point of celebrating Christmas in some way. And, of course, if it offends a person to hear about Christmas or be surrounded by it, then leaving <I>is<\/I> pretty much the only option. I&#8217;ll point out that there are Christians living in Israel, so there is some likelihood of hearing about Christmas there, too. I suspect your best bet for avoiding Christmas altogether would be South Asia, but I can&#8217;t say for certain. I&#8217;ve heard that throughout East Asia Christmas gets a fair amount of primarily secular attention. Ignorance about that, though, isn&#8217;t anti-semitism. And I don&#8217;t actually think that Bill O&#8217;Reilly believes that going to Jerusalem or, say, Bethlehem in the third week in December is a good way to avoid hearing about Christmas. But I think he&#8217;s just using shorthand for saying that, practically speaking, the caller will not escape Christmas as long as he lives with Christians.\n<p>Look, even if what he&#8217;s saying is that people should all live with people Just Like Them, that isn&#8217;t necessarily anti-semitic as such. Separatism isn&#8217;t the same as anti-semitism; I think it&#8217;s worse. But in this bit, he seems to me to be advocating separatism, rather than saying anything specific about Jews. It&#8217;s easy to imagine a nearly identical rant aimed at a Sikh, Hindu or Baha&#8217;i.\n<p>OK, look, I&#8217;m Jewish (surprise!). My own experience is that I get very quickly tired of hearing about Christmas. On the other hand, in my gripy way, I would far rather have somebody say to me &#8216;Merry Christmas&#8217; in the mistaken belief that I am Christian (as most people in town are) than have somebody say to me &#8216;Happy Holidays&#8217; in the mistaken belief that whether I am Christian or not I have a holiday yet to celebrate in December. That&#8217;s my reaction, but I&#8217;m aware that people, even Jews, are different one to another (and that&#8217;s what makes the world interesting and fun).\n<p>Anyway, how people greet me is a deal, but it isn&#8217;t a big deal. Other aspects of being a religious minority are a bigger deal. It would be far more convenient to me if, for instance, college semesters were set up so that the break was at Passover instead of New Years&#8217;. I understand, though, that would be tremendously inconvenient for most people. So it makes far more sense to set things up for most people, who happen to have their holiday at an odd time, and not in the Fall or the Spring like I do. See? It&#8217;s just a matter of logistics. Similarly, there&#8217;s an economy of scale that makes buying Christmas decorations cheaper and more convenient than buying Purim decorations. This isn&#8217;t anybody&#8217;s fault, particularly, it&#8217;s a natural result of the demographics. I still have a complaint, but it isn&#8217;t directed at anybody, just at the way logistics come out. It is essentially unfair, in the sense that Christians can celebrate their holidays more cheaply and conveniently than I can celebrate mine, but it&#8217;s unfair in the way that it&#8217;s unfair that some people are tall and others short. I mean, look at it this way: even if gay marriages become commonly accepted, the two grooms cake top will always be more expensive than the bride and groom, and that won&#8217;t be discriminatory, it&#8217;ll just suck. You see the difference?\n<p>Bill O&#8217;Reilly has no obligation to sympathize with any of that, of course. He can simply say that he and his cohort will do what they do, and we have to put up with it. And, frankly I am all in favor of everybody enjoying their religious holidays. I really am happy that we make it possible for most people to go to church on Christmas without having to clear it with their employers first. And it certainly isn&#8217;t for me to decide whether Christians should go to church on Christmas or stay home with their families, or go to malls. But it seems to me that he&#8217;s pretty much just saying we (Christians) can do whatever we want, and you (Jews or Moslems or Hindus or what you will) can&#8217;t claim offense. And if you do take offense, we (Christians) will consider that an affront, without particularly inquiring into whether anything really was offensive. So it&#8217;s more a kind of supremicism than anti-semitism, I think.\n<p>It would be nice (and in keeping with the Constitution and the intent of some of the Founding Fathers) if the majority kept in mind that the minority are citizens, too. We have all the rights and responsibilities of the majority in the same scale. The public spaces are mine as much as anybody&#8217;s (that is, in tiny measure), and who is he to tell me that I should have a cr&egrave;che in my Town Hall? Who is he to tell me that I should have a Santa on the roof of my school? Who is he? He&#8217;s the great Christian majority, that&#8217;s who he thinks he is. And what they say, goes. And <I>that&#8217;s<\/I> far worse than anti-semitism, and even worse than separatism. That&#8217;s an attack on pluralism. That&#8217;s a blind and arrogant tyranny, happy to hand to others the conditions under which they will be tolerated. And I find it disgusting. But it isn&#8217;t anti-semitic.\n<p>I should, before closing this already overlong note, add that I do not think that Bill O&#8217;Reilly speaks for all Christians, nor even for a majority of them. Christians, too, are different one to another. Many Christians are pluralists, and many Christian sects have pluralism as deep in their teachings as Judaism. If I have fallen in to Mr. O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s trap of talking as if Christians stand on one side of a line drawn by him, please be aware that I do not perceive the universe to be that way at all. Similarly, just because I don&#8217;t find Mr. O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s remarks anti-semitic doesn&#8217;t invalidate any other Jew&#8217;s interpretation of them as such. Remarks are offensive not by dint of some inherent quality, but by actually offending somebody. As people were actually offended, the remarks were offensive, and my analysis is not meant to deny that or to excuse it.\n<p>Thank you,<br>-Vardibidian.\n<\/p>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The mini-fooforah rising out of Bill O\u2019Reilly recently telling a caller who identified himself as Jewish that if he was really offended by &#8230; um &#8230; a variety of aspects of the ways Christmas dominates American culture, he \u201cgotta\u201d go&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[201],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2505","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-navel-gazing"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/vardibidian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2505","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/vardibidian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/vardibidian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/vardibidian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/7"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/vardibidian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2505"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/vardibidian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2505\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":17239,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/vardibidian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2505\/revisions\/17239"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/vardibidian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2505"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/vardibidian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2505"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kith.org\/vardibidian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2505"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}