Detailed X2 notes (spoilers!)

Tonight I didn't have enough brain to read or edit subs, so I decided to expand my notes on seeing X2 into complete English sentences.

First, some of the previews we saw: one for The Matrix Reloaded (still looks like fun); one for The Hulk (unfortunately, the CGI in this looks extremely computer-generated; I suspect I'll have a very hard time suspending disbelief, and I've never been a big Hulk fan to start with); and (among others I've forgotten) one for Stuck on You, a really awful-looking Farrelly Brothers conjoined-twins movie starring Matt Damon, who I've previously always had a lot of respect for.

Onward to my comments on X2. There will be spoilers here; also, this is not so much a coherent review as an assortment of notes.

Also, if you didn't already know I'm a comics geek, it will become abundantly clear as you read the following. I hope you won't hold it against me.

  • I really didn't like the goofy zoom-through-a-body(? or something) effects in the opening titles. Several movies recently have opened with CGI zooms through someone's body—a trend that must stop.
  • I thought the music was overdone, even in the opening White House scene (dramatic chords as we see the mysterious figure). I don't normally notice music in movies, but it was pretty glaring in parts of this movie.
  • The revisions to the timeline are fascinating, and imo mostly well done. There's no way to make a coherent realistic timeline out of the comic book series (Kitty was 16 for, what, five years?); since they wanted all the characters to fit into one coherent universe, they had to assign ages to them, and I think it was an interesting (and mostly good) choice to go with more or less the New Mutants period but to reassign some ages. (I was startled by how young several of the characters looked, but that may partly just be that they looked like the ages they were supposed to be, whereas the comic-book characters tend to be drawn as looking significantly older. I gather that Jubilee, frex, is supposed to be about 13 in the comics, but she looks like she's in her mid-20s in the pictures I've seen.) I thought it was an especially interesting choice to make Bobby a teenager when the others from his generation in the comic are older. (Bobby was a couple years younger than the others originally, I think, but only a couple; I think he was 16 when Scott et alia were 18 or so.) I can see most of them growing into the characters I expect them to be, rather than starting out as those characters.
  • Good stuff with Bobby and Rogue. (But, as Nick W. noted on a mailing list, they really need to experiment with plastic wrap. Someone get those two some dental dams!)
  • Good stuff with Jean and Logan.
  • I'm entirely uninterested in Scott; see previous entry on the Rocky Horror Mutant Show.
  • God Loves, Man Kills, the early X-Men graphic novel which parts of this story draw inspiration from, is one of my favorite X-Men stories. It's a little heavy-handed in its analogies between mutantphobia and other forms of prejudice, but does a good job (imo) nonetheless. I gather that that story is director/co-writer Bryan Singer's favorite X-Men story. I wouldn't go so far as to say that the movie is based on the graphic novel, but there are connections; for example, the villain of the GN was one Reverend Stryker, who has a device that can kill mutants at a distance.
  • As with God Loves, I liked the analogies in the movie between mutantphobia and homophobia. In particular, I liked the idea that Stryker was upset because he'd sent his son to Xavier to be "fixed"/"cured," and I loved the Bobby-coming-out-to-his-parents scene. Perhaps a little cliched, but it felt very true nonetheless.
  • I'm not really comfortable with the Cerebro-links-to-everyone-on-Earth business (rather gives Charles ultimate power over all of humanity, doesn't it?), nor with Charles's freeze-people-in-time power (which also makes him immensely powerful). On the other hand, I vaguely recall in one of the very early issues of the original comic book series (long before Claremont/Byrne), Charles does mind-control various people in order to talk to certain government officials. But the details are hazy in my memory.
  • Nightcrawler mostly well done. Expected him to be furry, though. :( V. glad he wasn't really a villain; after the opening scene, I was prepared to be seriously annoyed if they messed with his character that much. Despite various people's complaints about the handling of his religion, I thought it was reasonably well done, and I'm expecting that the hints of pride about the circus stuff was quasi-foreshadowing of him growing (over the course of the next couple movies) into the happy-go-lucky swashbuckler we all know and love. And I was impressed with the actor (Alan Cumming); based on his Spy Kids role, I'd worried that he would play the part for laughs, but I thought he did a good job. I wasn't so impressed with his bamfs, though—I thought the sound effect wasn't loud enough, and the swirling colors (while a cool effect) didn't make much sense, and I always thought the smoke and sulfur smell were interesting parts of the effect, contributing to the he's-a-demon feel (and thus the contrast with who he really is).
  • I think there was significantly more death in this than in the previous movie. Logan in particularly kills people without compunction—I get a bit more of a sense of the brutal-killer side of him here than I think I did last time, which ties in nicely with the you're-an-animal business from Stryker. (Btw, I gather that we did eventually get a Wolverine origin story in the comics, but it was long after I stopped reading the various X series, so I still don't know the details. Which is just as well, since I imagine they messed with it a bit in the movie.) Also, I liked the subtle statement that Wolverine is at least as old as Stryker; I suspect that people who didn't read the comic and didn't think about the implications of Logan's healing power might not have caught that. (Do we ever find out in the comic just how old Wolvie really is? I know it's established that he's much older than he looks (and he looks older in the comic than in the movies); I'm just not sure how old.) . . . In other news, Wolverine still not short. Or hairy.
  • Various characters and names looked/sounded vaguely familiar but I wasn't sure why. I knew the name Stryker but didn't remember Rev. Stryker; I knew the name Jason, connected to an illusionist, but didn't remember that in the comics it was Jason Wyngarde, a.k.a. Mastermind, of the Hellfire Club. All in all, I think they've done a decent job of re-imagining elements of the comic while keeping some of the essentials intact. I had no idea who Pyro and Lady Deathstrike (a.k.a. "claws chick") were in the comics, until I went and looked them up afterward; I think they, like Jubilee and Gambit (who was mentioned only in passing, and only by his mundane name) and Siryn (who I thought was nicely done), came after my time as a reader. . . . Heh—"[T]here's nothing hotter than claw on claw action," says co-writer Dan Harris in an interview.
  • It occurred to me after the movie that the spooky non-sleeping TV-watching kid must be Doug Ramsey. But I think I was wrong; after looking at the IMDB cast list, I'm now thinking his name was Artie, and another article gives his full name as Artie Maddicks, though his powers don't match those of the comic character with that name.
  • V. pleased to see Mystique (a.k.a. "Rebecca Romaine-Lettuce," as j7y calls her) have more of a role; I liked her a lot more here than last time.
  • Storm was still way underused. Why didn't she summon a wind to let the Blackbird down gently when it was crashing, or another wind to lift it off the ground at the end? And having her solve the problem at the end by making the room really really cold wasn't terribly dramatically satisfying; it wasn't a good match of superpower to situation. The writers coulda done way better.
  • I want to see more of Kitty Pryde! I know, I know, next time. (And I suppose I won't be able to have a crush on the character, now that I've aged and she hasn't. But still.)
  • I also want to see more of Colossus. V. sad he didn't have a Russian accent—nor Logan a Canadian one, for that matter. (But Logan said "Bub"! Yay!) (Sometimes it takes very little to make Jed happy.)
  • Yay for Hank McCoy on TV! I wonder if we'll see him as Beast next time, or if that was just a throwaway reference for fans. (I gather the guy he was debating on TV was named Dr. Sebastian Shaw; cute.)
  • Naomi B. mentioned "a scene at the end that I swear should have been a kiss." :) Yup.
  • I thought it was very unfortunate that they left Jason to die—he was a victim of his father's hatred as much as any of the others were, and I'd have liked them to acknowledge that.
  • I found the very ending a little anticlimactic, esp. since from their urgent "must get to the President immediately" line I was expecting a fight scene in which they would save the President from Magneto and Mystique.

I'll close by mentioning something Kam pointed out as we were leaving the theatre: some of the seat arms in that theatre can be lifted up, and when they're lifted, the bottoms of the cup-holders form a perfect X-in-a-circle logo. I immediately got out my compact digital camera to take a photo, but before I could take the picture, the cleaning staff arrived. I didn't want to have to explain to theatre management what I was doing with a video-capable recording device in their movie (though my camera is only capable of recording maybe thirty seconds of video), so I hid the camera and we left. But at some future point I hope I can take a photo of those seat arms.

11 Responses to “Detailed X2 notes (spoilers!)”

  1. Nea

    I recently saw X-Men and I agree with all the points you have made; Storm is horrible underrated, wolverine isn’t canadian enough, and Xvaviar’s(sp) supper powers. I am also upset that Gambet has not been introduced as a character! Well I’ll be back checkin in on more entries.

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  2. Hannah Bowen

    re: Alan Cumming as Nightcrawler…

    Laughs, nothing. I adored the character, but I kept expecting him to bust out a “Willkommen, bienvenue, welcome!”

    Just me? Okay.

    TherewillbeGambitnexttimetherewilltherewilltherewill. No? I can’t heeeaaar you.

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  3. Fred

    Hey, Jed. Your comments are spot on. I’m eagerly waiting for the “New Mutants” movie. (I also thought the channel changer was Doug Ramsay, although that’s not quite his power either.)

    Have you seen this petition about God Loves, Man Kills?

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  4. Vardibidian

    I was also concerned about how much killing went on. Let’s see, a terrorist attack on the President, followed by killing a whole bunch of law enforcement officers, going on the lam, then killing more law enforcement officers, and a prison break (killing more law enforcement officers). No, there’s be no reason for the President to be concerned.

    By the way, are there any law enforcement officers in the X-world who aren’t corrupt, stupid, goons or bumbling, ignorant morons? Perhaps there are three levels: mutants, humans, and law enforcement officers.

    Thanks,
    -V.

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  5. David Moles

    I actually thought the Secret Service guys in the opening sequence were pretty sympathetic — something that I think was the result of deliberate decisions by the director and scriptwriters: we get a lot of reaction shots and emotional response from them, which we don’t get from the soldiers and cops later as they’re dispatched without ceremony.

    (The whole White House sequence is what the opening of Phantom Menace, with the two Jedi aboard the Trade Federation ship, should have been, by the way. Sometimes I wonder what it would do for the credibility of SF film if George Lucas could actually direct…)

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  6. David Moles

    I’d also have to draw a line betwen secret Special Ops troops (on American soil, no less — Posse Comitatus Act, anyone?) and “law enforcement.” And it looked like they went to some (rather unrealistic) pains to make it seem as though Pyro hadn’t really killed anyone, just singed them a bit. (Ah, that PG-13 rating.)

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  7. naomi_traveller

    hee!

    i’m delighted you agree…

    that whole last scene was played all wrong for my taste. as if suddenly they went ‘oh! quick! cue the violins!’

    but the movie was good fun.

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  8. Cat Faber

    Hi Jed!

    I liked the movie a lot, mostly. I’m willing to let Colossus’s and Wolverine’s accents slide; I really enjoyed Mystique. I’d like to point out that special ops guys probably don’t get to pick and choose assignments, & may not have been psyched about raiding a school. I was kind of uncomfortable with the rampant killing of “normals,” actually; I don’t remember it being that way in the comic.
    But I Don’t Get why Jean Grey had to leave the plane at the end. Why not stay and fly safely away in the plane with everybody else? I hate it when a character seems to hear the director saying “okay, it’s time to die heroically now–cue violins, cue touching goodbye” and doesn’t make any effort to save *herself* along with everyone else. I don’t have anything against dying heroically, mind you, but it ought to be a last resort.

    That said, I really liked the casting, and I loved Nightcrawler. Except he really ought to go BMF! (I’m pretty sure that’s how it’s spelled; it is pronounced Bamf! Sort of like that town in Canada). Without the right sound it took me some time to figure out who he was. Come to think of it, I do wonder how Stryker caught him.

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  9. Jed

    (Oops—started to post this Tuesday morning, but got sidetracked and then the browser crashed. Luckily, I’d saved a copy elsewhere.)

    I should’ve noted that the missing accents were not a big deal, just minor disappointments; well within the range of reasonable changes. (…Though I think it’s also worth noting that X-Men was an early attempt at thoroughgoing diversity in a superteam: the first revised/new team consisted of an African, an American Indian, a Japanese man, and so on, so the German and the Canadian and the Russian also fit this mold. And then later we’ve got the Irish girl and the Brazilian boy and the boy from the Southern US and so on. It’s kind of a Star Trek tokenism approach to diversity, but it made for a good first step, and it resonated well with the themes of being outcasts and marginal, and I’d like to see more of it in these movies.) I imagine we’ll find out more about Colossus’s revised background next movie.

    I was partly uncomfortable with the number of deaths in the movie (I couldn’t tell whether Pyro killed anyone, but it looked pretty likely), but I did think it was a really interesting character note for Wolverine. To some degree, this was his movie even more than the last one was—last time he got all the good lines, but this time he got some character depth. The struggle between animal instincts and human civilization has always been central to his character, and I mostly like what they did with it here.

    Another interesting (totally unrelated) character tidbit: Pyro following Bobby and Rogue (back in the mansion) rather than escaping. There was still a little loyalty in him at that point—though, sure, it was convenient to the plot too. But I thought it was a nice humanizing touch of a character who might otherwise have been a bit too much of a caricature (and whom I never really did care much about regardless).

    Why Jean Grey had to die the way she did: as setup for X3, of course. But I agree (as do most of the others I’ve seen talking about it) that that bit was goofy and illogical and inconsistent, and there were probably much better ways they could’ve brought about the same conclusion.

    Btw, I went and checked some old issues, and Nightcrawler’s sound effect really is spelled “BAMF.”

    Good question about how Stryker caught Nightcrawler.

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  10. jere7my

    Hi Jed! Great review. Coupla notes:

    1) We recently got an ultimate-origin story for Wolverine, which depicts him as a young man fighting in the Civil War. (Or so I hear — I haven’t read it.) So, presumably, he’s about 150.

    2) It was a nigh-invisible point, but Jean Grey was inadvertently affecting the Blackbird’s electronics there at the end, as she’d done once before in the movie. That’s why she needed to leave, and why all das blinkenlights came back on as soon as she left.

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  11. Jed

    Thanks, j7y! I completely missed the notion that Jean Grey was causing the problems with the Blackbird’s electronics; that sheds a very different light on the ending. I still think it should been possible to finesse a solution—in the comics, for example, Ororo can fly using the wind (and didn’t she do something like that in the first movie?), so she could’ve blown Jean to safety. Bobby could’ve frozen the water into an ice floe to hold Jean up. Kurt could’ve teleported her to safety in a quick series of bamfs across the valley and up to a hilltop. But at least it explains why Jean had to get out of the plane, which was my biggest complaint about that; thanks!

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